To follow up on Jim's comment "In addition, I hope the growers in this region will consider collecting and using surface water or reclaimed water at their nurseries/greenhouse to prevent future." Some in this group may remember our California tour a few years ago. Watsonville, (Pajaro Valley), has major issues with saltwater intrusion from years of over drafting. On the tour we saw how Kitayama Bros was significantly investing in rainwater catchments from the greenhouse roofs for their salt sensitive cut flowers. If you need an actual example, or grower case study, they could be a relevant contact, or reach out to Loren or Darren who I believe are still in this group. Cheers, Lloyd Lloyd L. Nackley, Ph.D., Associate Professor Nursery Production and Greenhouse Management Oregon State University | North Willamette Research & Extension Center 15210 NE Miley Road, Aurora, Oregon 97002-9543 From: Water Management and Quality for Ornamental Crop Production and Health <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Owen, Jim - REE-ARS Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2023 6:18 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [External Email]Re: Salt Water Intrusion Question [This email originated from outside of OSU. Use caution with links and attachments.] Jeb, Here is how I would approach in order of action. 1. Identify salinity of well(s) and identify if dilution or treatment is warranted. All wells may have varying intrusion based on depth, location, connectivity. Electrical conductivity (EC) can be used as an initial proxy for NaCl levels prior to testing. EC and salinity should directly correlate. 2. Identify salt tolerance of most important economic crops and group accordingly; water to manage leaching fraction for salt control; noting some crops may have to be sacrificed to retain higher value crops. * https://ucnfanews.ucanr.edu/Articles/Feature_Stories/Leaching_to_Manage_Salinity_in_Ornamental_Crops/ * https://digitalpubs.ext.vt.edu/vcedigitalpubs/2843385422231419/MobilePagedReplica.action?pm=2&folio=1#pg1 1. Dilute saline water, if possible, with municipal, surface or purchased water and apply below the your best SWAG NaCl concentration for each class (low, medium, high) of salt tolerant crops 2. Install desalination systems to provide dilutant water, noting that produced water volume will be considerably lower than need and the nursery must manage the brine (this is a longer term fix with large capital inlay potentially; also the technology providers seems to be in flux when last researching). I wish your growers and community the best of luck in this time of pending crisis. Fingers crossed you receive the needed rain prior to having to enact emergency measures. In addition, I hope the growers in this region will consider collecting and using surface water or reclaimed water at their nurseries/greenhouse to prevent future. Respectfully, Jim ________________________________________________________________ James S. Owen Jr. PhD USDA - ARS Appl. Technol. Res. Unit Research Horticulturist (757) 374-8153 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Advanced out of office notice: Oct. 9-13; Oct 17-18, Nov 18-26; Dec 26-29 From: Water Management and Quality for Ornamental Crop Production and Health <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Fisher,Paul Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2023 9:01 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [External Email]Re: Salt Water Intrusion Question As James mentions, prioritizing water quality for different needs is key. Use the lowest EC water for propagation - most plants and highest value per liter, most sensitive, and that is where RO or similar is the quickest payback. Paul Fisher, Ph.D. Professor and Extension Specialist 2549 Fifield Hall, 2550 Hull Road, PO Box 110670, Gainesville, FL 326211-0670 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>, 352 226 4410 From: Water Management and Quality for Ornamental Crop Production and Health <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Altland, James - REE-ARS Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2023 8:56 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [External Email]Re: Salt Water Intrusion Question [External Email] Jeb, I worked with a nursery in Oregon that had multiple farms, one of which had high salt levels (Na) in their groundwater. Some species were tolerant or indifferent to high salt, while some were very sensitive. So they grew plants in the different farms according to their sensitivities. You could employ a similar strategy even within a single farm. Taking what Raul mentioned with dilution, you could dilute the water more or less in different parts of the nursery depending on crop sensitivity. But how do you know which crops are sensitive? That's hard to know. This nursery learned by experience. Genhua, Raul, and Youping have been studying relative sensitivity of many crops to high EC levels. Their research would be a very useful start for making a list of sensitive (or tolerant) crops. James James Altland, Research Leader Application Technology Research Unit 220 FABE Building OARDC 1680 Madison Ave. Wooster, OH 44691 330-317-9142 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> From: Water Management and Quality for Ornamental Crop Production and Health <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Raul Cabrera Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 5:12 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: [External Email]Re: Salt Water Intrusion Question Some people who received this message don't often get email from [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> [External Email] If this message comes from an unexpected sender or references a vague/unexpected topic; Use caution before clicking links or opening attachments. Please send any concerns or suspicious messages to: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Hi Jeb, On just broad terms, with sea/saltwater intrusion growers will deal with EC increases dominated by NaCl (making over 90% of the total dissolved ions), which will also lead to specific toxicity issues with these two ions (most woody plants respond negatively to >2 mM Cl and >3 mM Na, or >70 ppm for both). This being said, dilution is the simplest/cheapest way to deal with the brackish water you end up with saltwater intrusion ("dilution is the solution for seawater pollution"). A couple of decades ago some nurseries in Texas dealing with naturally brackish (up to 10,000 ppm soluble salts or EC 12 dS/m) groundwater supplies were doing reverse osmosis on some volumes of water, which then they blended back with the brackish water to dilute the salt content, minimized foliage wetting and use very high leaching fractions to deal with these issues. I believe David W. Reed describes some of these in Chapter 3 of his (edited) 1996 Manual on Water Media and Nutrition (Ball Publishing). I believe the Texas Water Board allows to dispose of the large volumes/fractions of brine water produced by the RO systems (25-80% waste brine water) by injecting into very deep saline aquifers. You will have to check with the Louisiana Water boards to see the regulations on RO brine water. Feel free to call/text/email me if I can be of assistance. Best regards, Raul = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Raul I. Cabrera, Extension Specialist in Nursery Crops Management Dept. of Plant Biology, Rutgers University Rutgers Agric. Research & Extension Center 121 Northville Road, Bridgeton, NJ 08302 856-391-7632 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> From: Water Management and Quality for Ornamental Crop Production and Health <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Fields, Jeb S. <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:41 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Subject: Salt Water Intrusion Question Hi fellow water enthusiasts, I am working to find some options for our growers dealing with salt water intrusion in the New Orleans and below area. I thought this group might have some ideas they would be willing to share. If anyone doesn't know, we have been in a massive drought in southern LA this summer. As a result saltwater is moving up the Mississippi River and getting into the groundwater and drinking water. I have a few large nurseries in the sub New Orleans areas looking for options. I am pulling resources together and thought I would ask if anyone has some insight as to dealing with saltwater intrusion on the nursery, or any resources available for growers. Thanks in advance! Jeb Jeb S. Fields, PhD Assistant Professor & Extension Specialist, LSU AgCenter Assistant Research Coordinator, Hammond Research Station Arlene and Joseph Meraux Endowed Professor of Commercial Horticulture 21549 Old Covington Hwy., Hammond, LA 70403 Email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Office: 985-543-4125 This electronic message contains information generated by the USDA solely for the intended recipients. Any unauthorized interception of this message or the use or disclosure of the information it contains may violate the law and subject the violator to civil or criminal penalties. If you believe you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete the email immediately.