---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 06:54:03 -0500 From: Suzanne Stauffer <[log in to unmask]> To: Open Lib/Info Sci Education Forum <[log in to unmask]> Subject: RE: most demanding courses in LIS No, it's not graduate education. It's not even good undergraduate education. LSU expects at least a mid-term and a final. As I always explain to C&C, I don't give exams because a research paper provides better evidence of the student's ability to analyze and synthesize the information learned in the class and apply it to a problem or situation. I'm fairly confident that the SLIS faculty who do give exams give short-answer/essay exams, not multiple choice, which also require students to analyze and synthesize and apply. Graduate students should feel that their minds and world are expanding. The challenge should not exceed their grasp, which means that it is unattainable, but it should force them to stretch mentally. How challenging a course is surely depends on the interaction among the student, the teacher and the topic. Some of our students are challenged by any course that requires them to understand the basis of technology, because their experience is limited to consumption. For instance, understanding what a relational database is and how it functions is essential to understanding the relationship between a bibliographic database and an authority file. Students who may be fine with descriptive cataloging fail at authority work because they simply cannot grasp the concept of relational database; they keep merging the authority record into the bibliographic record. A perennial challenge in cataloging is the student who is doing copy cataloging and has to overcome bad habits; one student this semester is struggling with the 490/8xx concept because her library still uses 440. The distinction between transcription field and access point is not one that has been dealt with on the job. Students who never heard of the 440 don't have to deal with this. After cataloging, reference (by any other name) was probably the most demanding course in my MLS program, and it continues to be, both because of the amount of work required and because it requires working in areas with which the students are unfamiliar. I had no trouble with biographical sources, indexes and abstracts, and social science/humanities resources, but was driven to tears by maps and government documents. Others struggle with systems evaluation, because they have no background in evaluating technology at that level, or with management, because they have no business background, so it is all new. I have been told that my seminar in the history of books and libraries is "demanding" because it requires students to understand and utilize modern theoretical perspectives and methodologies and to produce original thought (usually a historiography) rather than just read a lot of articles and summarize them. Suzanne M. Stauffer, Ph.D. Associate Professor School of Library and Information Science Louisiana State University 277 Coates Hall Baton Rouge, LA 70803 (225)578-1461 Fax: (225)578-4581 [log in to unmask] Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information? --T.S. Eliot, "Choruses from The Rock" ________________________________________ From: Open Lib/Info Sci Education Forum <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Gretchen Whitney <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 7:12 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: most demanding courses in LIS Greetings, Readers have been asking for more discussion in this community, so here's a set of questions to work with. I have been cruising around LIS programs recently, and noticed that in many syllabi that I can find, many courses ask (in terms of workload) a few exercises, two-page essays, and a multiple-choice final exam. Here are my three questions: 1) Is this workload requirement graduate education? If so, why (as opposed, for example, to the composition of a twenty-page term paper). If not, why not? 2) Are university graduate students supposed to feel "comfortable" in their educational experience (as reported in the local newspaper), and not feel challenged to "exceed their grasp"? 3) What are the five most challenging classes offered to LIS students across the LIS discipline (school doesn't matter), and why? Answers could include challenging thinking, workload, tasks, original research, information technology skills, work within the community and support of community efforts. This could be a really tough question. If there are any responses I'll put together a committee of respected individuals and there will be a collective decision. But the question is really intended to stimulate conversation. --gw <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Gretchen Whitney, PhD, Retired School of Information Sciences University of Tennessee, Knoxville TN 37996 USA [log in to unmask] http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/ jESSE:http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/jesse.html SIGMETRICS:http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/sigmetrics.html <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>