Greetings, Now we are going to look at programs for the high school graduate. (WHATT?? Yes, it is a program for these folks sponsored by the American Library Assn.) Read on. In this thread, we have covered the lead-up to the requirement for the Masters degree for the well-fought for and earned designation of a "professional librarian" from a historical perspective. Those mentioned are great resources. Yes, we are leading up to a taxonomy of educational principles and strategies for LIS education for the worker in some kind of institution or society, from high school through the doctorate. I carefully distinguish between what the consumer of information needs to know, from what the individual person who claims to KNOW that the consumer of these information resources needs to know, and presumes to instruct them (the latter being LIS people, information professionals, or whatever). All of these exist programs exist today. We have looked at undergraduate components to some sort of degree for a librarian. We have looked at community college contributions to some sort of instruction and knowledge base for those in that setting as Dr. Mrs. Joe Biden asks us to do. We can assume knowledge in this audience about master's programs, and PhD programs. We have not looked at undergraduate programs for the general undergraduate student in LIS issues, such as evaluating information resources. I must add to the mix programs prepared for high school students and graduates. I call your attention to http://ala-apa.org/lssc/ the American Library Assn / Library Support Staff Certification program, sponsored by the ALA-APA (Allied professional Association). I had never heard of this organization until a few days ago. I note their competency sets at http://ala-apa.org/lssc/for-candidates/competency-sets/ (I'm avoiding being snarky about wishing that Master's students had these) I note their info about course providers at http://ala-apa.org/lssc/for-course-providers/ (Don't have to have much re academic qualifications) I note approved courses at http://ala-apa.org/lssc/for-course-providers/ (I looked at http://ce.fresno.edu/cpd/ParaProfessional/coursedetails.aspx?courseCode=LIB-77 as an IT course, it is not so bad or inadequate. At least it covers assistive technologies. I invite graduate teachers to look at these syllabii and comment. Most of the links to approved courses take you to an institution/enrollment page, and not the actual syllabus itself. This makes it hard to evaluate these courses. But the point here is that there is an LIS educational system in LIS designed for high school graduates. Sponsored by the ALA. I had no idea it existed until a few days ago. I can't tell who is teaching the courses because the links are just e-mail addresses to non-descript addresses with no web pages or accountability. Based on the examination of one course only, I don't see much difference between this high-school level course and one that could be offered at a graduate level. Again, I can't get to the actual syllabi for other courses. We as a discussion group continue to work on the taxonomy of LIS educational programs and opportunities offered by institutions of higher learning and certified by professional associations such as ALA. Workshops sponsored by conferences and the like don't count in this analysis. Interesting problem/discussion. --gw <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Gretchen Whitney, PhD, Retired School of Information Sciences University of Tennessee, Knoxville TN 37996 USA [log in to unmask] http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/ jESSE:http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/jesse.html SIGMETRICS:http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/sigmetrics.html <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>