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Re: cataloging ELIS as a continuation of earlier editions -examples to look at for anyone interested: University of Wisconsin Madison - I will follow with UCLA & U Pitt records fyi as contins for earlier editions . Again--for anyone interested. Even though the first edition had so many volumes-did they also correspond to annual yearly updates in between? 1968 - 2003/2005 These would be annuals and certainly representative of a continuing publication. The format is where now we see things changing more with ELIS3 online as e-resource and offered as ebooks with more licensing restrictions as well. again, these are just issues and sometimes barriers to locating information as well it is very likely also that many libraries just have ELIS3 sitting somewhere as a title change or as something that has to be changed from continuation to "something else" --e-resource. We can see that in the UW-Madison record from 2003 (field 956) it says for example that the online access link ceased to be available after the 3rd ed was published. When searching online databases it's important to realize also that some holdings as monographs are just going to be "hidden" in records for Series /Continuations/Periodical holding records i.e. non book but series type publication records as well in libraries If libraries have cataloged something as a continuation, will users locate this holdings information with ease in a WorldCat search for books? it can be hit or miss. Cheers / Karen W Here is Wisconsin's catalog record for the first edition and second edition : University Wisconsin Madison libraries Permalink: http://madcat.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?BBID=366668 000 01117cas a2200337 a 450 001 366668 005 20030605162337.0 008 781117d19682003nyu x m 0 a0eng 010 __ |a 68031232 035 __ |a (OCoLC)04380549 035 __ |9 ABP6662UW 040 __ |a DLC |c TOL |d UCU |d m.c. |d OCL |d NYS |d RCS |d CRL 050 __ |a Z1006 |b .E57 060 0_ |a Z 1006 E56 069 1_ |a E06770000 082 __ |a 020/.3 096 __ |a Z 1006 E56L 245 00 |a Encyclopedia of library and information science. 260 00 |a New York, N.Y. : |b Marcel Dekker, |c c1968- 300 __ |a 73 v. : |b ill., facsims. ; |c 27 cm. 362 0_ |a 1968-2003. 504 __ |a Includes bibliographies. 515 __ |a Vol. 36- also called suppl. 1- 555 __ |a Vols. 1-33, 1968-1982, in vols. 34-35. 650 _0 |a Information science |x Dictionaries |x Periodicals. 650 _0 |a Library science |x Dictionaries |x Periodicals. 690 __ |a Information Services |x encyclopedias 690 __ |a Libraries |x encyclopedias 690 __ |a Library Science |x encyclopedias 700 10 |a Kent, Allen. 730 00 |a Encyclopedia of library and information science. Supplement ------------------------------------------- University Wisconsin Madison libraries Permalink: http://madcat.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?BBID=6008406 000 01302cam a2200349 a 45x 001 6008406 005 20100406113105.0 008 030410s2003 nyua b 001 0 eng 010 __ |a 2003048938 035 __ |a (OCoLC)ocm52079540 040 __ |a DLC |c DLC |d C#P |d WID 020 __ |a 0824720776 (v. 1 : acid-free paper) 020 __ |a 0824720784 (v. 2 : acid-free paper) 020 __ |a 0824720792 (v. 3 : acid-free paper) 020 __ |a 0824720806 (v. 4 : acid-free paper) 050 00 |a Z1006 |b .E57 2003 082 00 |a 020/.3 |2 21 092 0_ |a 020.3 |b En19e2 049 __ |a WIDA 245 00 |a Encyclopedia of library and information science. 250 __ |a 2nd ed. / |b edited by Miriam A. Drake. 260 __ |a New York : |b Marcel Dekker, |c c2003. 300 __ |a 4 v. : |b ill. ; |c 29 cm. 500 __ |a Accompanied by supplements. 504 __ |a Includes bibliographical references and index. 505 0_ |a v. 1. Abs-Dec -- v. 2. Des-Lib -- v. 3. Lib-Pub -- v. 4. Pub-Zoo. 650 _0 |a Library science |v Encyclopedias. 650 _0 |a Information science |v Encyclopedias. 700 1_ |a Drake, Miriam A. 730 0_ |a Encyclopedia of library and information science, second edition. |n First update supplement. 956 41 |u http://digital.library.wisc.edu/1711.web/elis |x access ceased w publ of 3rd ed 994 __ |a X0 |b WID On 4/4/11, Marcia J. Bates <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Karen Weaver et al., > > I think there must be a misunderstanding about the question of the > number of holdings listed in OCLC's WorldCat for the Encyclopedia of > Library and Information Sciences. Karen, you are saying that other > libraries may list ELIS3 as a continuation of the earlier editions, > but I haven't found any examples of that. Indeed, even the Library > of Congress lists the editions separately. I've looked under both of > the specific records you point to (LC and OCLC), and they both list > only the original editors and the original volume numbers. No > changes in editors are listed and no volume numbers are given beyond > the original number of volumes in the first edition. (There were 73 > volumes in the first edition, including some 40+ supplements.) In > sum, there are NOT 332 copies of ELIS3 in libraries! > > If you search for the 3rd edition title in OCLC you find the same > small set of records that I have been working off of during this > whole discussion. Though they may sometimes handle things as > continuations, libraries seem not to have done that with this work. > > By the way, I certainly value cataloging--I used to teach it, a > hundred years ago or so. ;-) > > Marcia > > > -- > Marcia J. Bates, Ph.D. > Professor Emerita > Fellow, American Association for the Advancement of Science > Editor, Encyclopedia of Library and Information Sciences, 3rd Ed. > Department of Information Studies > Graduate School of Education and Information Studies > University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) > Los Angeles, CA 90095-1520 USA > Tel: 310-206-9353 > Fax: 310-206-4460 > Web: http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/bates/ -------------------------------------------- Karen Weaver, MLS, Electronic Resources Statistician, Duquesne University, Gumberg Library, Pittsburgh PA email: [log in to unmask] / Gmail: [log in to unmask]