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This is a very good and useful post of Bob's, in my opinion, 
and it largely rings true.  ( The part about Powerpoint reminds 
me of a nice little film, "How NOT To Use Powerpoint", 
of which some of you may be aware :  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BP2HlNmRJ4 .
As they say, "In der Beschränkung zeigt sich der Meister". )

With respect to Bob's good question :  

> Why should we expect students and perhaps even faculty
> to follow a different principle for our area of concern? 

Here's something I've been sort of wanting to ask, and I'm 
not being facetious :  

Does any of you know a librarian who has ever actually 
come out and said the following, or something comparable, 
to a researcher, say an historian or a geologist or a social 
psychologist or a classicist or a microbiologist or a 
musicologist ? :  

"Prof. A, I have carefully read through your recent article, 
X, in The International Journal of Y, and, I want to tell you, 
it can clearly be shown that this article would have made a 
more significant contribution to the field [ or avoided such-
and-such a shortcoming, etc. ] if you had in the process of 
preparing it only consulted with a librarian, or had only 
previously followed a course of instruction by library staff 
on effective literature searching in the databases which the 
library has licensed and made available to the university 
community."  Or suchlike.

Follow-up question :  does any of you know of an actual 
case in which, though no one may have pointed this out to 
the researcher involved, such an assertion by the librarian 
could more or less objectively have been demonstrated 
to be correct ?  

Last question :  Is anyone here in a position to produce 
valid and reliable evidence that, in any academic field of 
his/her choice, the state of knowledge at the moment ( in 
history or geology or social psychology or classics or 
microbiology or musicology or anthropology or whatever 
you like ) is less advanced, or the achievements to date 
less impressive, than they might have been, namely 
because its specialists have made insufficient use of 
librarians, librarians' methods, or recommended library 
resources ? 

OK -- forget maybe about a cause-and-effect relationship, 
if you like. What about even statistically valid evidence of 
a positive correlation ?

One could put the same questions, mutatis mutandis, 
regarding the scholars'/scientists' accomplishments as 
educators rather than for the moment as researchers, if 
one so desired. 

Why am I posing these questions ?  Are they silly ? Am I 
being much too overly simplistic ?

*Can* librarians and other "information professionals" 
render, empirically, their oft-heard claims and critiques 
credible ?  Convincing ?  Irrefutable ?  Have I missed 
something, and have they, in practice, accomplished 
such a task already ?

I'd really like to be steered toward some clear cases in 
point, should they exist.

You can also turn it around :  Any obvious cases of googling 
scholars' ultimately screwing it up ?  Of a discipline that's not 
as far as it could be, or is deteriorating, because of too much 
googling by its researchers ? 

Isn't this kind of like where the rubber really hits the road ?

So to repeat Bob's question quoted above :  "Why should we 
expect students and perhaps even faculty to follow a different 
principle for our area of concern?" Why indeed ?

If the real validity and value of our way of looking at things 
can be shown, in black and white as it were, with solid 
pragmatic evidence, will the outside world then not *have* 
to listen, and then to behave accordingly ( unless they 
genuinely *aren't* in their right minds ) ?

If these *can't* be shown, should we then finally give up on 
all the lamentations and protestations and preaching to the 
choir that we've been doing for as long as I can remember, 
and start expending our energy in a more meaningful 
( productive, facilitating ) way ? 

It was perhaps a fun game, but who needs it anymore ?

Am I talking nonsense ?  [ Don't answer that ! :-) ]


- Laval Hunsucker
   Breukelen, Nederland





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From: Bob Holley <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 1:04:38 AM
Subject: Re: Where do libraries fit in the "information-seeking food chain"? (fwd)

 
I would like to present the concept of “it’s good enough” to
meet my needs. My PowerPoint presentations are minimalistic. With a few hours
of free instruction, I would be able to present results that would be dazzling
compared with what I do now. But I’m always busy and have other competing
priorities. The PowerPoint’s that I do produce are “good enough” and don’t get
me booted off the podium.
 
As long as faculty accept and give reasonable grades to research
produced from a naïve use of Google and other “easy” resources, time stressed
and efficient students won’t feel the need to develop more complex information
seeking skills because what they are doing produces “good enough” results.
 
I’m sure that most of us have areas in our life where we could
do much better with a bit of extra effort, but we don’t bother because what we
are doing meets our needs. Why should we expect students and perhaps even
faculty to follow a different principle for our area of concern? I’m sure that
we’ve all been in situations where all we wanted to do was minimally accomplish
a task and judged all the additional attempts to impart knowledge as
frustrating for wasting our time on a topic where we didn’t want to know more.
 
Bob
 
Robert P. Holley
Professor, School of Library & Information Science
Wayne State University
Detroit, MI 48202
1-888-497-8754, ext 705 (phone)
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