Sue Easun said:
"Suzanne, your point may be true for those who aren't planning to become faculty
members. But what about those who would like to but don't get to be faculty
members, for any number of reasons."
All I intended to say in my original post is that it was very nice to see that some LIS schools are trying to prepare doctoral students for a future as faculty members, and that other LIS schools offering the PhD should consider doing the same.
As for those "who would like to but don't get to be faculty members, for any number of reasons", they'd still potentially benefit from such a seminar, since they don't know yet that they won't be faculty. :-)
Let's not "diss" seminars like the Pitt and UCLA seminars because they don't cover all possible outcomes for LIS PhD grads.
Bernie Sloan
--- On Thu, 1/21/10, Sue Easun <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Sue Easun <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: On learning about how to be a faculty member
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 9:37 PM
Suzanne, your point may be true for those who aren't planning to become faculty
members. But what about those who would like to but don't get to be faculty
members, for any number of reasons.
I absolutely agree that anyone intent on becoming a faculty member would do well
to know what (s)he is getting into. (During my days at Berkeley, we doctoral
students created our own noncredit course, and it was pretty darned cuttin' edge.)
But neither did we include a segment on life outside the academy.
If the rest of the world is expected to hold up to five different positions over the
course of a working life, what makes us think the professoriate is immune? Or that
tenure is going to be granted, never mind achievable, even ten years from now?
This is the time to discuss things like the possibility of running an institution like
IMLS, or taking an entrepreneurial spin, or the various other positions in which we
often find ourselves, wondering how we got there :-)
Sue
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On 21 Jan 2010 at 8:52, Suzanne Stauffer wrote:
>
> Well, I would imagine that they wouldn't register for the seminar if
> they had not interest in become
> faculty.
>
> Given that this list is called "Lib/Info Sci Education Forum" and
> that most of said education is
> provided by academic faculty members who were once doctoral
> students, I don't see why it
> wouldn't be appropriate.LIS education -- and higher education in
> general -- is not served bya
> succession of tenure-track faculty members whofail to advance to
> tenure because they did not
> understand what was expected of them until too late in the game.
>
> Doctoral students who are considering a career as tenured faculty
> should understand what that
> means early in their program, so that they can decide whether it
> really is for them, and structure
> their program accordingly.
>
>
> Suzanne M. Stauffer, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> School of Library and Information Science
> Louisiana State University
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> Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge?
> Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?
> --T.S. Eliot, "Choruses from The Rock"
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>
> From: Open Lib/Info Sci Education Forum on behalf of Sue Easun
> Sent: Tue 1/19/2010 11:32 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: On learning about how to be a faculty member
>
> > I highlighted Richard Cox's doctoral seminar at Pitt because of
> its
> > focus on preparing doctoral students
> > for their futures as faculty members. Not just asLIS faculty
> > members, but faculty members generally.
>
> But what of students who aren't planning to become faculty members?
> or who
> don't get to be faculty members? Nothing against Richard's course,
> or any of the
> others discussed, just wondering whether the list feels such
> situations should be
> addressed.
>
> Sue
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> Sue Easun, Ph.D.
> Principal and Editorge
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