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Sue, Your thoughts put me in mind of Dr. Maturin in the Patrick O'Brien sea-faring novels - Maturin is endlessly passionate about finding/figuring things out with hard work and careful thinking - whether this happens while being a ship's surgeon or wartime spy is essentially irrelevant. How sad if we were to be producing faculty members rather than Doctors of Philosophy who may or may not be faculty members. This is not to say there is not sufficient administrivia, power dynamics, politics, etc in faculty member life to warrant significant consideration. Brian C. O'Connor, Ph.D. Visual Thinking Laboratory Department of Library & Information Sciences College of Information University of North Texas 1155 Union Circle 311068 Denton, TX 76203-5107 940.206.1172 ________________________________________ From: Open Lib/Info Sci Education Forum [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sue Easun [[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:32 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: On learning about how to be a faculty member > I highlighted Richard Cox's doctoral seminar at Pitt because of its > focus on preparing doctoral students > for their futures as faculty members. Not just asLIS faculty > members, but faculty members generally. But what of students who aren't planning to become faculty members? or who don't get to be faculty members? Nothing against Richard's course, or any of the others discussed, just wondering whether the list feels such situations should be addressed. Sue Sue Easun, Ph.D. Principal and Editorge Second Hand Knowledge