Karen,
The UCLA items are all individual records, and come up as separate
records when one searches on "encyclopedia of library and
information." It's nice that they reference related records, but
each is itself a separate record. Thus all should be evident to the
searcher. I don't see that these are handled as "continuations,"
i.e., a later edition wrapped into an earlier one. So what is your
point?
Marcia
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>Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:07:54 -0400
>Subject: cataloging ELIS - Pittsburgh & UCLA ELIS1-3 -for those
> interested-last examples
>From: Karen Weaver <[log in to unmask]>
>To: "Open Lib/Info Sci Education Forum" <[log in to unmask]>,
> [log in to unmask]
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>
>ELIS 1-3 as continuation? UCLA & Pittsburgh examples from catalogs
>
>I wanted to just provide 2 other examples of ELIS 1-2-3 from UCLA &
>also from Pittsburgh libraries where we can see the first and second
>editions on the one item holdings record.
>UCLA has for the first original record 1968-2003 in brackets.
>Then I have provided the record for the online resource for the 3rd edition.
>
>Again, these are just examples all related to the original question
>about how to determine which libraries owned ELIS-3 and what we can
>easily find or not.
>Sorry for all these records, but I hope they have been of some
>further interest.
>Many cataloging courses today seem to focus on Print and then
>Metadata, yet it's important to also remember there are many many
>other issues that get skipped over in our basics
>in terms of where to look & what gets "hidden" in the process. series,
>e-resources , print
>
>Also, I would think that searching local catalogs these days tends to
>be more updated than WorldCat records would be anymore. Just sharing
>these examples for those who are interested in the discussion on
>cataloging ELIS 1, 2, & 3. and how to locate holdings etc
> I hope it is of some assistance & interest in the challenges for
>libraries today & users.
> Best, KarenW
>
>Collection: UCLA Libraries and Collections
>Search Request: Title Phrase = encyclopedia of library and information science
>Search Results: Displaying 5 of 5 entries
>
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>082 04 |a 020/.3 |2 22
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>130 0_ |a Encyclopedia of library and information sciences (Online)
>245 10 |a Encyclopedia of library and information sciences |h
>[electronic resource].
>250 __ |a 3rd ed. / |b Marcia J. Bates, editor-in-chief ; Mary Niles
>Maack, associate editor.
>260 __ |a Boca Raton, FL : |b CRC Press, |c 2010-
>538 __ |a Mode of access: World Wide Web.
>500 __ |a Title from homepage (last viewed March 3, 2010).
>500 __ |a Rev. ed. of: Encyclopedia of library and information
>science / edited by Miriam A. Drake. 2nd ed. c2003.
>530 __ |a Online version of the 3rd ed. of the Encyclopedia, with updates.
>530 __ |a Also available in print.
>506 __ |a Access restricted to subscribing institutions.
>504 __ |a Includes bibliographical references.
>650 _0 |a Library science |v Encyclopedias.
>650 _0 |a Information science |v Encyclopedias.
>700 1_ |a Bates, Marcia J.
>700 1_ |a Maack, Mary Niles.
>730 0_ |a Encyclopedia of library and information science.
>776 08 |i Print version: |t Encyclopedia of library and information
>sciences. |b 3rd ed. |d Boca Raton, FL : CRC Press, c2010 |z
>9780849397127 |w (DLC) 2009040251 |w (OCoLC)454373558
>856 40 |z Restricted to UCLA. |u
>http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/title~db=refwork~content=t917508581
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>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>PRINT version record
>
>Collection: UCLA Libraries and Collections
>Search Request: Title Phrase = encyclopedia of library and information science
>Search Results: Displaying 3 of 5 entries
>
>
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>001 1426
>005 20071230203948.0
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>010 __ |a 68031232
>020 __ |a 0824720040 (v. 4)
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>245 00 |a Encyclopedia of library and information science. |c
>Editors: Allen Kent and Harold Lancour. Assistant editor: William Z.
>Nasri.
>260 __ |a New York : |b M. Dekker, |c 1968-<c2003>
>300 __ |a v. |b illus., facsims. |c 27 cm.
>500 __ |a Editors vary.
>500 __ |a Vols. 68-<70> also numbered supplements 31-<33>; vol. 72
>numbered supplement 35; vol. 73: indexes to volumes 48-72.
>504 __ |a Includes bibliographical references.
>650 _0 |a Library science |v Dictionaries.
>650 _0 |a Information science |v Dictionaries.
>700 1_ |a Kent, Allen.
>700 1_ |a Lancour, Harold, |d 1908-
>700 1_ |a Nasri, William Z.
>700 1_ |a Daily, Jay Elwood.
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>------------------------------
>
>University of Pittsburgh Libraries - brief item/holdings record with
>editions 1 & 2
>continuation/series/set record
>
>Title: Encyclopedia of library and information science.
>
>Publisher: New York, N.Y. : Marcel Dekker, Inc.,
>
>Physical Description:
> v. : ill., facsims. ; 27 cm.
>
>LC Subject Heading(s):
> Library science--Dictionaries--Periodicals.
> Information science--Dictionaries--Periodicals.
>
>Description: Vol. 1 (1968)-
>
>Notes: Includes bibliographies.
> 2nd ed. (2003)- issued in 4 or more vols.
>
>Location: Information Sciences Lib 316 Info Sci Bldg Reference
> Noncirc
>
>Call Number: Z1006 E58
>
>Status: Not Checked Out
>
>Library has: v.1-73 [1968-2003]
> 2nd ed.:v.1-4 [2003]
>
>Supplements: 2nd ed. 1st Update Supplement [2005]
>
>Indexes: v.1-45 | Shelved as v.46-47
> v.48-72 | Shelved as v.73
> ______________________________
>======================================================
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>University of Pittsburgh Libraries
>Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
>http://www.pitt.edu/libraries.html
>
>
>
>On 4/4/11, Marcia J. Bates <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Karen Weaver et al.,
>>
>> I think there must be a misunderstanding about the question of the
>> number of holdings listed in OCLC's WorldCat for the Encyclopedia of
>> Library and Information Sciences. Karen, you are saying that other
>> libraries may list ELIS3 as a continuation of the earlier editions,
>> but I haven't found any examples of that. Indeed, even the Library
>> of Congress lists the editions separately. I've looked under both of
>> the specific records you point to (LC and OCLC), and they both list
>> only the original editors and the original volume numbers. No
>> changes in editors are listed and no volume numbers are given beyond
>> the original number of volumes in the first edition. (There were 73
>> volumes in the first edition, including some 40+ supplements.) In
>> sum, there are NOT 332 copies of ELIS3 in libraries!
>>
>> If you search for the 3rd edition title in OCLC you find the same
>> small set of records that I have been working off of during this
>> whole discussion. Though they may sometimes handle things as
> > continuations, libraries seem not to have done that with this work.
>>
>> By the way, I certainly value cataloging--I used to teach it, a
>> hundred years ago or so. ;-)
>>
>> Marcia
>>
>>
>> --
>> Marcia J. Bates, Ph.D.
>> Professor Emerita
>> Fellow, American Association for the Advancement of Science
>> Editor, Encyclopedia of Library and Information Sciences, 3rd Ed.
>> Department of Information Studies
>> Graduate School of Education and Information Studies
>> University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)
>> Los Angeles, CA 90095-1520 USA
>> Tel: 310-206-9353
>> Fax: 310-206-4460
> > Web: http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/bates/
>>
>-------------------
>Karen Weaver, MLS, Electronic Resources Statistician, Duquesne
>University, Gumberg Library, Pittsburgh PA email: [log in to unmask] /
>Gmail: [log in to unmask]
--
Marcia J. Bates, Ph.D.
Professor Emerita
Fellow, American Association for the Advancement of Science
Editor, Encyclopedia of Library and Information Sciences, 3rd Ed.
Department of Information Studies
Graduate School of Education and Information Studies
University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1520 USA
Tel: 310-206-9353
Fax: 310-206-4460
Web: http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/bates/
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