LISTSERV mailing list manager LISTSERV 16.5

Help for P2P Archives


P2P Archives

P2P Archives


P2P@LISTSERV.UTK.EDU


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

P2P Home

P2P Home

P2P  March 2001

P2P March 2001

Subject:

Re: How much bandwidth is reasonable?

From:

"Smith, Sheila" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Peer-to-Peer <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:41:32 -0700

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (72 lines)

Amen, Shelley! What a novel idea. Actually teaching folks about sharing
resources and being considerate of others' needs.  I know, I know. It should
be taught at home...I'm sure that bridge has already been crossed.

I've been lurking for a while now.

Our AUP states:  "The network is a shared resource.  Consequently, network
uses or applications that use excessive bandwidth or otherwise inhibit or
interfere with the use of the network by others is prohibited."

And before anyone protests about not saying how much is too much, we feel
pretty strongly that if OUTBOUND Napster traffic is taking up more than half
of the campus' bandwidth and Napster is running for that *very small*
portion of our users that have figured out a way around the block we put in
place on the firewall, then that constitutes "excessive bandwidth."  And
let's not even get into the argument of whether Napster et al., are an
appropriate application to be monopolizing the available bandwidth.  Perhaps
if it was the SETI@home project that was chewing it up,  I would be much
less apt to protest the use of excessive bandwidth (and only "perhaps").
Did I say that our dorms share the bandwidth with the rest of the campus?

Sheila Smith
ResNet
Montana State University



-----Original Message-----
From: Shelley Henderson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:14 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [P2P] How much bandwidth is reasonable?


Okay, here's an analogy: picture a college lecture hall; prof up front,
100 students or so in the audience. (I know; with a big lecture like
this, you're not liable to get a prof, but a TA. All analogies have
their limits!)

Five students are scattered around the hall running boom boxes at top
volume, listening to Metallica or Eminem or Bach or...

Three students are engaged in a paintball game...

Nine students are throwing spitballs, paper airlines, pencils at each
other...

Two are looking at and exchanging hard-core pornography...

Four are talking on cell phones arranging for pizza to be delivered...


etc etc etc

What happens to the poor lecturer and the handful of students who are
actually trying to conduct class? When does one student's 'freedom
of speech' impede another's?

And part of my job IS to catch individual students who are violating
University network usage policy. Usually, I catch somewhere below a
couple dozen a day, referring them to consulting for a talking to. One day
(shortly after that Christmas break), I reaped >>93<< students.

I would like to humbly submit that part of the !@#$% socialization
process is to learn how to co-exist, cooperate and live within the
rules. Otherwise, somebody might come along who could damage your
self-esteem badly because s/he got REAL ANNOYED with your preaching
freedom of expression while stomping all over theirs.

Shelley
USC ISD

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

Advanced Options


Options

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password


Search Archives

Search Archives


Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe


Archives

October 2024
September 2024
August 2024
July 2024
June 2024
May 2024
April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
May 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
June 2018
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
November 2016
October 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
July 2015
June 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
September 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
September 2012
August 2012
June 2012
May 2012
March 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
April 2009
January 2009
July 2008
October 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
February 2007
October 2006
July 2006
June 2006
March 2006
January 2006
September 2005
June 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
November 2004
October 2004
September 2004
June 2004
May 2004
April 2004
March 2004
February 2004
January 2004
December 2003
November 2003
October 2003
September 2003
August 2003
July 2003
May 2003
April 2003
March 2003
February 2003
January 2003
December 2002
November 2002
October 2002
September 2002
August 2002
July 2002
June 2002
May 2002
April 2002
March 2002
February 2002
January 2002
December 2001
November 2001
October 2001
September 2001
August 2001
July 2001
June 2001
May 2001
April 2001
March 2001
February 2001
January 2001
December 2000
November 2000

ATOM RSS1 RSS2



LISTSERV.UTK.EDU

CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager